• fakedang 4 hours ago |
    It's China, Cuba needs $8-10 billion USD, money that China isn't that eager to put into Cuba, but Trump's constant warmongering against Cuba has given China the opportunity to put a bunch of spy stations on the island.

    #savedyouaclick

    • ohhman11 3 hours ago |
      >Trump's constant warmongering against Cuba has given China the opportunity to put a bunch of spy stations on the island.

      These kinds of claims would really benefit from additional information regarding the nature of such spy stations. What would they do and why? I don't think Cuba is exactly a top tier sigint location.

      They could install radar, but that's not spying.

      • fakedang 2 hours ago |
        You'd be surprised at the benefits of something as mundane as proximity in espionage. Especially for a country like China or Russia which is very far away from mainland USA. Tracking troop movements at lower latency, tracking comms on unsecured networks, monitoring satellite launches happening from Florida, etc.
    • vintermann 2 hours ago |
      Yes, the question is how reliable those claims are.

      Cuba doesn't have a lot of foreign currency, but it does have a lot of cheap labor, often shockingly skilled labor. Boiling it down to a cost in dollars may not be easy, let alone saying "China won't spend that".

      • fakedang 2 hours ago |
        China is most definitely going to be spending that in a tit-for-tat arrangement, as hinted at by the spy stations.
        • vintermann 6 minutes ago |
          Yes, China is already spending so much in much less developed/educated places, seemingly just for "goodwill" or at least to be in a good place once the US hegemony falls. The only reason they wouldn't do it in Cuba would be to avoid needlessly provoking the US, but I think they have a good excuse now (clearly US is the provocateur, they're only restoring some semblance of balance in the longer term).
  • yanhangyhy 3 hours ago |
    I forgot where I saw this claim, but it said that China has actually encouraged Cuba to carry out a similar kind of economic transition, yet it was rejected, so the only things China has been able to do are to provide aid in areas such as food and electricity.

    Socialism is not necessarily unworkable; rather, in a world full of forces trying to destroy you — for example, under decades-long economic blockade by the United States — it is impossible for Cubans to live a normal life. The results brought by socialism may not be better than capitalism under such conditions. Of course, turning toward the United States could be even worse, meaning that a large amount of Cuba’s wealth would be transferred to and controlled by the U.S., and a pro-American regime would be established. It would be similar to how nobody cares about the Philippines, one of the poorest countries with the highest proportion of prostitution in the world, which has a U.S.-style political system, and nobody cares about the lives of the many “free” people living in slums.

    Solar energy is something remarkable. It not only provides the basic necessities of life, but also gives countries and their people greater autonomy. I hope Cuba can hold on until the day it can develop its economy normally, and until the day the United States declines.

  • ZeroGravitas an hour ago |
    It would be interesting to read an actual deep technical dive on this.

    Was cuba previously generating electricity with imported oil? How were they paying for that? A gift from Venezuela? It seems possible that the solar is actually batter and cheaper than what they were paying for before but needs up-front financing, which is a general issue with solar in developing nations.