• mellosouls an hour ago |
    Antigravity may well Top the whatever benchmark but:

    My Antigravity (forced) replacement for Gemini CLI requires me to log on via browser every time I use it, and my Antigravity IDE won't update at all, so:

    If it's ok I'd prefer they just work on reaching a baseline acceptable rollout before worrying about being Top in anything.

    Ps actual title:

    OpenSCAD LLM Benchmark: Building the Pantheon

    • pelagicAustral an hour ago |
      I just use Claude Code and intellij, so I don't understand why so many people complain about Antigravity ditching VS Code, what's the surface not covered by using Antigravity CLI + VS Code (or any other IDE)?
      • freedomben an hour ago |
        I'm not GP, but I am somewhat excited about antigravity CLI. I adopted Gemini CLI early and really liked it, though over time it got dumber and dumber until a point when I realized it was foolish to use it instead of claude/codex. I'm hopefuly that antigravity CLI won't go through that path, but also can't fight a skepticism.
    • freedomben an hour ago |
      Having my workflow disrupted is the main reason I never adopted Antigravity, despite liking it. I'm glad to see G is invested, but the older I get the more protective I am of my workflow.
      • hootz 27 minutes ago |
        And the only realistic way to protect our workflow is by avoiding vendor lock-in like the plague.
    • jetter an hour ago |
      I agree, my main concern regarding Google AI products is this endless pain around the UX of login / billing / upgrades / product sunsets... but their LLM models are good and Antigravity 2.0 is not that bad either (unless you lost all you Antigravity 1.0 setup and projects - like many people did)
    • the_real_cher an hour ago |
      Wild that it doesn't cache the creds.
      • elaus an hour ago |
        Just to clarify: I believe it should cache them (it works for me).

        So far I like it much more than Gemini CLI (my previous daily driver for personal projects). Seems more mature and "feels more intelligent" (very subjective ofc)

      • littlecranky67 7 minutes ago |
        My (unfounded) guess is this is to prevent usage by other tools/openclaw. The browser login will have a fingerprinting to make sure you are a human.
    • VectorLock 16 minutes ago |
      The forced upgrade from Gemini CLI which I liked as much, and as some ways better than Claude Code was bad. But them just sending out that email on Wednesday that basically said "Thanks for subscribing to Google One AI Pro, as of right now we're adding limits to your account. Tough shit you get nothing." left a REALLY bad taste in my mouth. I had previously praised the "AI Pro" subscription as a good value.
      • leoedin 4 minutes ago |
        I quit AI Pro earlier this year for the same reason. I went to use it one day (I don't think I'd even used it much in the preceding week) and found that my limits had been reduced overnight and my usage was already too high. I had something like a 7 day wait until it reset.

        I get you have to change limits, but reducing limits in a way which both applies retroactively and has a really long reset period is just infuriating. If they'd applied the new limits more gently or at the next billing period I'd probably have continued paying.

        I don't mind paying a fair price for a service that provides value, but I really hate having a service I think I'm paying for rug-pulled with no clear justification.

    • stuaxo 4 minutes ago |
      "Pantheon" bloody hell, why is it people writing these articles are so up themselves, it's so overbearing.
  • ReptileMan an hour ago |
    The only thing faster moving that AI these days are the goalposts. Three years ago we would have been amazed if models were able to produce anything, now we have the luxury of nitpicking. Even the worst entries in the benchmark are quite impressive.
    • LatencyKills an hour ago |
      Things mature, and expectations grow appropriately. That is true of more than just LLM performance.
      • xnx 30 minutes ago |
        Sure, but it's good to have some perspective and some awe that any of this would've been absolute unbelievable magic just 3 years ago. Even if all AI progress stopped immediately, we'd need 10 years to digest and incorporate the technology.
        • LatencyKills 16 minutes ago |
          As someone who's been building developer tools (Visual Studio and Xcode) for 25 years, I don't have a perspective problem. We were doing "code completion" back in the 90s and could never have predicted that an LLM would write code at the current level of quality.

          My point is that with every new model release, the expectations grow. I don't know how else to say that.

    • ramon156 an hour ago |
      No one asked for faster horses, they still became obsolete when cars came. Nothing new
  • spiderfarmer an hour ago |
    Next month they'll be beaten again.

    And next year Google will probably sunset Antigravity.

    If it doesn't make Google billions, don't trust them.

    • PunchTornado an hour ago |
      Plenty of google products dont make billions and they are still alive
      • smcl an hour ago |
        Google are infamously ruthless with their products, see https://killedbygoogle.com/
      • serf an hour ago |
        you mean the stuff they handle that has a real national/security/surveillance purpose, like gmail and yt?

        I can't imagine why (or who) that'd be kept alive for..

        funny how some of their projects have undisclosed budgets and profits.

      • toasty228 44 minutes ago |
        Which ones are not massive data traps or ad delivery mechanisms ?
  • dhfbshfbu4u3 an hour ago |
    Still a long way from shorting Autodesk.

    As a side note Autodesk released an agentic assistant back in December for Fusion. Six months later it is still quite bad.

    • hobofan 5 minutes ago |
      It is almost comically bad. I've had a few simple parts to design for 3d printing in the last weeks and tried it with them (each are about 4 operations on the timeline), and it never created close to what I was trying to do even if spelled out step by step according to Fusion naming.

      At this point I'm not even sure if it can properly create a simple primitive solid.

  • faangguyindia an hour ago |
    Why are specialized CAD making LLM models not showing up? In future are we going to have same model for everything? from programming to creative writing to CADs?
    • xnx 34 minutes ago |
      > In future are we going to have same model for everything?

      A model that knows more in general, will often be better at specific tasks. e.g. If you ask a model to "make a program that estimates the annual production of a solar installation", it needs to have been trained on a lot more than just Python code.

    • embedding-shape 24 minutes ago |
      If you have a model that only know how to model CAD but also doesn't know history, and was trained on visual language of said history, how is it supposed to be able to model the Pantheon in the first place? It'd only be able to model exactly what you can describe with text, or even worse, exactly what it'd be able to visually extract from images via the vision encoders, for "vision models", but it'd be a far cry from what you see in this blogpost, would be my guess.
  • beanjuiceII 42 minutes ago |
    google..no thanks
  • debarshri 35 minutes ago |
    I have been using GPT 5.5 to build a video game. Benchmark sounds about right. It generates assets and sprite good enough, if not closer to AAA level games. Will check antigravity now.
    • phn 30 minutes ago |
      Would you be able to share a bit about your workflow? Have been meaning to try AI gen for game models, and would love to know how people are tackling this.
  • jdw64 29 minutes ago |
    To be brutally honest, I'm disappointed with antiGravity. It feels incredibly unGoogle-like. The AI billing models are fragmented, and the AntiGravity IDE is currently tripping over something as trivial as a basic Electron deployment config bug.

    Don't get me wrong, I don't think AI coding is a bad thing. For East Asians like myself, it levels the playing field with Westerners, so as long as you rigorously review the AI's output, it's a perfectly viable tool.

    However, the absolute farce we just witnessed with the antiGravity2.0 update really raises doubts about whether 'vibe coding' can actually be trusted. If even a behemoth like Google is dropping the ball like this, it says a lot.

    • embedding-shape 26 minutes ago |
      > AI billing models are fragmented ... IDE is currently tripping over something as trivial ... farce we just witnessed with the antiGravity2.0 update

      I'm sorry, but that sounds exactly like almost every single Google "product" out there, they seem to only care about throwing stuff over the wall as quickly as possible, and you'd have a hard time finding a single Google product that doesn't also feel filled with fragmented choices, like every project of theirs have a different project manager every week.

  • jhot 26 minutes ago |
    Last weekend I bought my wife a bike off marketplace. It was in good condition but was missing one of the internal cable routing grommets. I gave Claude pictures of the pill-shaped hole by itself and with my digital calipers in the long and short directions.

    Gave it a short prompt and it gave me an openscad model with everything parametrized. I printed with no changes in tpu and it was nearly perfect on the first try. Claude put in a 0.3mm subtraction in the x/y dimensions and I lowered it to 0.1 and it's perfect.

    Much easier shape than ancient Roman architecture but still very cool how easy it was.

    • jetter 12 minutes ago |
      these small functional prints are exactly where OpenSCAD and LLM generation shines
    • simplyluke 6 minutes ago |
      Yeah, CAD has been my personal example of "oh the barrier to entry for this skill was high enough that I didn't do it and now I can be passably bad at it enough to get some simple things done"

      I've had similar experiences with making simple functional parts off a 3d printer with OpenSCAD + LLMs. I'm very aware that the models are worse at it than say, generating react code, and I'm also the antithesis of a skilled pilot. It's still cool and has resulted in me starting to learn a new skill at a hobby level.

  • a3w 23 minutes ago |
    Claude Code 2.1 / Opus 4.7 looks best to me: Dome and ceiling structure is correcter than the others.

    Why is this medium ranked, and not on par with the best two?

  • nycdatasci 19 minutes ago |
    And yet 300+140=460. A very jagged surface indeed. https://gemini.google.com/share/c2a187275e26
  • bobbycastorama 18 minutes ago |
    Why are half of the comments on Hackernews stereotypical AI-bros whose lives revolve around tech, and the other half sceptical commentators whose lives also revolve around tech but they are disappointed with its performance?!

    Where are the normal people :/

    • frank00001 16 minutes ago |
      We are just reading the comments.
    • elorant 16 minutes ago |
      Both parts seem pretty normal to me.
  • megiddo 14 minutes ago |
    This would be the same Antigravity 2.0 that "surprise, no longer an IDE, did I forget to mention that? Lolol."