• maxrev17 2 hours ago |
    Flip me. Typical guardian type drivel. If AI is going to take over I’m yet to see any glimmer - like not even one single glimmer from any SOTA, local, local ablated, or otherwise dodgily trained models. At all. They’re a probability engine but the human brain can’t compute so we jump to woo woo shit. Brilliant.
    • poisonborz 2 hours ago |
      I wouldn't think informed people are afraid of an "evil AI", it's about then complying to prompts in ways the prompter wouldn't expect - because of weak target systens, or the agent was not sandboxed enough, or sandboxing was done carelessly. All current hacking cases are like this, imagine the same with weapon systems.
  • baal80spam 2 hours ago |
    https://archive.is/M92Yd

    > Some Pull The Plug activists have diverted their energy from Just Stop Oil and Extinction Rebellion. One member of Emma’s cell glued herself to roads to protest against the climate crisis.

    Ugh, why am I not surprised they are the same crazies (most likely funded by the same shady NGOs).

    • keiferski 2 hours ago |
      A lot of young people are pretty unhappy with the state of the world and the future they’ve been given. I don’t really blame them for targeting various different things that represent that future.
      • jaapz 2 hours ago |
        Yeah I don't think their actions will do anything to change the course of history, but I sure do empathize with them.

        We're here breaking record after record for temperatures all around the globe, we're seeing the effects of our industry and resource usage wreaking havoc everywhere. Record droughts. Record melt. Record rainfall. Record storms. And now the most powerful country in the world has a guy in charge who doesn't even care the world is going to shit. And at the same time global fossil fuel emissions are still rising.

        It shouldn't come as a surprise some people will channel their feelings to actions trying to change something.

        AI datacenters are just the next energy-guzzling target for these people.

        • ta20240528 2 hours ago |
          The problem is that a truly low-carbon lifestyle is indistinguishable from abject poverty.
          • vrganj 2 hours ago |
            Then the problem might be that we've been living above our means for too long?
    • frumplestlatz 2 hours ago |
      It’s fantastic way to engender popular support for AI. People hate those groups’ protestors — and for good reason.
      • pelagicAustral 2 hours ago |
        Yeah, exactly. I mean, it's always a net-negative with these types...
    • vrganj 2 hours ago |
      I find it commendable that they are at least doing... something, however ineffective.

      The state of the world is not great, and the things they are acting against are some of the most directly responsible.

      I don't think their approach is particularly impactful, but it's better than just quietly watching the world burn...

      • glerk an hour ago |
        > The state of the world is not great, and the things they are acting against are some of the most directly responsible.

        AI companies are directly responsible for the state of the world not being great? Are you serious? There are much better ways to make the world a better place than lashing out like this.

  • pr337h4m 2 hours ago |
    > In April, another protester hurled a petrol bomb at the house of the company’s chief executive, Sam Altman.

    "protester"

    • vrganj 2 hours ago |
      Is it only protest if it is meek and ineffective? Polite and easily ignored?
      • frumplestlatz 2 hours ago |
        We’re talking about a petrol bomb hurled at someone’s home.
        • vrganj 2 hours ago |
          Yup. We are talking about it, precisely. It seems like the protest worked in getting attention and mindshare.

          If they had just shown up with a sign, would we be talking about it? I suspect not.

          • frumplestlatz 2 hours ago |
            We’re talking about far-left (in this case) radicalization that needs to be stamped out, and which directly feeds the reactionary right.

            I don’t give a shit about their cause. They lost me and anyone else that’s moderately sane when they firebombed someone’s home.

            You should research the violent political environment of the Weimar Republic and how it directly paved the road for the NSDAP’s ascension to power.

            The solution to violent radicalization is to shut it down, not to normalize political violence that undermines law and democracy.

            • watwut an hour ago |
              Far left radicalization is necessary to counteract right wing radicalization that directly caused it. The right wing radicalized first and right wing millionaires put a lot of money into supporting that radicalization.

              Left wing is just starting to react.

    • GJim 2 hours ago |
      Somebody who protests violently is still a protester.

      You and I will disprove of their illegal methods, but that does not change who they are.

      • frumplestlatz 2 hours ago |
        More accurate would be “rioter”, “terrorist”, or “insurrectionist”, depending on the specifics.
        • vrganj 2 hours ago |
          All of those are political labels. One person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
          • frumplestlatz 2 hours ago |
            No, terrorism is defined by their methods and targets.

            I wish I could say I was shocked by the dangerous radicalization you’re exhibiting, but it’s increasingly the norm.

            • soco an hour ago |
              For my understanding: aren't "terrorists" meant those who target random bystanders to make a point? In this particular case Altman is no bystander (but his family is).
            • piva00 an hour ago |
              There's no consensus on the definition of terrorism though, and it's so broad that you could use it for calling any kind of violent protest as terrorism.

              A thing to keep in mind: when people feel they have no voice they inevitably will resort to violence for their political aims. It's just a fact that terrorism, in its broadest sense, will happen if powerless people don't see any other possible avenue for their political opinions to be taken into account.

          • GJim an hour ago |
            If anyone is fighting for my freedom, I'd rather object to them targeting civilians old boy.
            • surgical_fire 43 minutes ago |
              Let's not pretend Altman is a random innocent bystander.

              We may object to someone trying to get him to a state of incandescence as an act of unjustified violence, but Altman is definitely a member of the tech elite, something vlas close to aristocracy as we have in our times.

              How the future will have written the current events, I cannot say.

        • watwut an hour ago |
          Insurrectionist is getting ahead of the time, Altman is not technofeudal lord yet.
        • surgical_fire an hour ago |
          Every revolutionary was a terrorist before the revolution prevailed.
      • chrisjj 26 minutes ago |
        > Somebody who protests violently is still a protester

        Somebody who uses violence is not necessarily a protester at all.