• kakacik 2 hours ago |
    Hopefully not musk's grok
  • ta20240528 2 hours ago |
    Surely its just any postcode east of Berlin?
  • roschdal 2 hours ago |
    ai prompt: "as a application reviewer for Deutsches Bundeswehr, search and identify applicants who have been rejected from Austrian art-schools." (I am not right-wing extreme)
  • isodev 2 hours ago |
    I think that's a violation of the AI Act.
    • soco an hour ago |
      At least in theory, no AI is making decisions on that - just adding a summary/categorization to the applicant dossier sitting in front of the HR. Now the bigger question is, what does a normal employee do with an AI recommendation? What are you as a software developer doing with the agent recommendations?
  • 127 2 hours ago |
    Every force has an equal and opposite force. The more you push, the more push-back you will get.
    • ben_w 42 minutes ago |
      Human psychology isn't Newtonian physics, cultural norms are not a conserved quantity.
  • wheels 2 hours ago |
    How extreme do you have to be to get in?
  • antiloper 2 hours ago |
    Obvious AI generated article without citing any sources.
  • sammy2255 2 hours ago |
    Whos to say it's right or wrong? If I make a twitter profile impersonating a specific person and fill it with right-wing extremism will it get flagged by their process?
    • soco an hour ago |
      While technically possible, what are the chances to be targeted by such a defamation attack? We are not talking some high profile personality, just some Joe User looking for a job.
  • tesnorindian 2 hours ago |
    Curious to know which SOTA Frontier model did they use? Or an open weights model?
  • LawrenceKerr 2 hours ago |
    I guess left-wing extremism is okay? Like suppose you are a socialist, a nationalist and a socialist who wants to work for the Bundeswehr... that's perfectly fine then? (joking of course)
    • OKRainbowKid 2 hours ago |
      That's not very funny, and this reframing of nazis (national socialists) as left-wing because they have "socialist" in their name is an ongoing effort by right-wing populists and extremists.

      It is hard to tell from your joke whether you also mean to propagate that narrative.

      • LawrenceKerr 27 minutes ago |
        Perhaps it was in poor taste. Nazi jokes are no laughing matter.
    • kakacik an hour ago |
      Socialism is not left wing extremism even from already-right default view in US. Its of course up to definition what that word actually means, but one could roughly say ie current France and Spain are socialist countries.

      It normally means strong social & welfare state, massive workers protections and so on. Nordics could be also labeled as such. Economy is not that performant and often utterly lost when some bigger changes happen on markets, with corresponding economical under-performance.

      For extremism, look at proper communists or neo-marxists (aka forced mass takeovers of private businesses and any non-small private properties/ownerships by state, bloody revolution & rule by proletariat aka new elites). There is not much economic performance to speak of.

      • LawrenceKerr 30 minutes ago |
        France and Spain are most definitely not socialist under the classical definition of socialism.

        Socialism is an economic and political system in which the means of production, such as businesses, factories, land, and capital, are owned or controlled by the state, rather than primarily by private individuals and companies.

        But it's true that there's been an ongoing political effort to reframe socialism from its original definition to simply meaning a capitalist welfare state with worker protections

      • Leonard_of_Q a minute ago |
        You're not describing socialism but social democracy. While both "socialism" and "social democracy" have the word "social" in them the comparison largely stops there. Neither are current France and Spain socialist countries, let alone the Nordic countries since all these have a (regulated) market economy with a large private sector. Sanchez (Spain's prime minister) is a socialist but that does not make the whole country socialist. Macron is not a socialist, the Nordic countries are governed largely by centre-right to centre-left coalitions.

        Socialism is the precursor to communism, the "dictature or the proletariat" where the message is production are "socialised" or, in clearer terms, nationalised and run by the state. The end goal of socialism is communism, the "class-less state" which is supposed to eventually wither away because it is no longer needed because "everyone is a communist". This last stage with the withered-away state has never and shall never be reached because it goes against human nature which means the true end stage of socialism and communism is the large and oppressive state which defends its necessity by constantly pointing at in- and outside forces which are out to topple it.

        Socialism and communism can only work at a small scale, small enough so that everyone really knows everyone and there is no need for a "Party" and the related "party elite" to rule. Even at that small scale conflicts arise - "Johnny got twice as much ice cream as I did, NOT FAIR" - but those tend to be easily settled since everyone knows everyone and there is no "elite" which is treated differently from the rest. At a larger scale that elite quickly succumbs to the same human vices which doom feodalism, crony capitalism and similar systems.

        I am disheartened and rather flabbergasted by the way this has to be explained time and time (and time) again. Socialism is BAD, m'kay? Social democracy is OK because it doesn't violate basic human principles which make that people put their personal and familial needs over those of the collective. Socialism and communism do violate those principles which means people rules under them need to constantly be kept in check by the state lest they try to take care of their own needs before serving the collective. That in turn necessitates a large state which begets the "party elite" which turns the whole thing into a twisted form of feudalism where the serfs have to pretend it is all for their own good while the masters feast on the spoils of their labour.

  • AmazingTurtle 2 hours ago |
    > If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it. Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead. If you flag, please don't also comment that you did.

    Interesting, why is this spam or off topic? This is absolutely an AI topic that needs to be discussed. Not off-topic. Moderation? Hello?

    • libertine 2 hours ago |
      The question could also be, is HN being targeted with bots, just like a Reddit, YouTube, Twitter, Facebook...
  • awongh 2 hours ago |
    Link to the actual article: https://archive.is/kt3Aa
  • nilslindemann 2 hours ago |
    Systemic racism within the German system has been proven [1], so the Bundeswehr is right to screen for it. I have experienced racists at work, at government offices and in everyday situations. A system consisting of such people does not properly work. We need some Goodwill.

    [1]: to name one: https://fgz-risc.de/forschung/inra-studie