• its-summertime 7 days ago |
    I always felt bad about the whole site/browser cross integration that chrome and edge and others do. Now I feel really really really bad about it. Can almost see the marketing team's emails about what features to add, and the developers unwantingly writing the code not expecting such things to open so many holes
    • xnickb 7 days ago |
      I think they very well understand that this code was full of bugs but no one cared. Likely was assigned to some junior who was making an entry into the team/repos as a non-critical task.

      And it's hard to judge them: I'd also rather focus on real features.

    • imtringued 7 days ago |
      What?

      Special casing your domains to be assumed "secure" is exactly how you build vulnerabilities directly into your software.

      It's an inevitable result.

      Developers aren't aware because they assume a security model where the special casing is disabled.

      • its-summertime 6 days ago |
        I agree with you, I probably should have said that I feel negative towards it instead of just saying "bad"
  • zhiyan 7 days ago |
    human craft is becoming rare these days
    • Geezus_42 7 days ago |
      Has been for a long time.
    • cubefox 7 days ago |
      It's more that LLMs increasingly outperform humans in finding vulnerabilities, so the share of human discoveries goes down.
      • account42 7 days ago |
        That's downplaying how LLMs discourage humans from thinking themselves by providing an easier "good enough" path.
        • cubefox 7 days ago |
          That's downplaying the massive increase in LLM capabilities relative to the modest decrease in human capabilities.
          • ShinyLeftPad 7 days ago |
            That's downplaying the importance of human capabilities.
        • LoganDark 7 days ago |
          seconding this. it's even worse for those with executive dysfunction where it becomes too difficult to force one's self to continue taking what is now the long way around. even if you could do it so much better with time and practice.
  • berofeev 7 days ago |
    Excellent write up
  • darkamaul 7 days ago |
    Orange is a legend and this chain is extremely impressive here.

    No memory corruptions, no heap shenanigans, just pure logic bugs, almost made easy to understand for the reader.

    As a bonus, they also posted a reverse chain: popping Edge from calc [0].

    [0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh1zglq4mLE

    • mschuster91 7 days ago |
      > As a bonus, they also posted a reverse chain: popping Edge from calc [0].

      What the hell is going on there? Apparently they are spawning new and new and new instances of calc.exe until one random (?) instance is vulnerable to some sort of attack, then they inject some shellcode into it from outside, and manage to trigger it by inputting "1"s until there's an overflow?

      Really looking forward to the writeup lol

  • breakingcups 7 days ago |
    This is amazing work.
  • sharpshadow 7 days ago |
    The popup nightmare never stops.
  • tveita 7 days ago |
    > So even if you’ve never created a User Profile in the browser, just visiting www.microsoft.com is enough for Edge to create one and sign you in automatically.

    This is disgusting behaviour, RCE chain or not.

  • antonly 7 days ago |
    It's very refreshing to read such clearly written and concise technical reports.
    • layer8 7 days ago |
      No “here’s why it matters” and friends, thankfully.
  • deburo 7 days ago |
    I guess that explains the questions I had when I was mysteriously logged into Edge. I checked whether Chrome does something similar, and it can, but the setting "Sign in to Chrome when you sign in to other Google services" was set to "Don't sign in", so I'm not sure whether this is the default or not.
  • Vaushite 7 days ago |
    This is very awesome and cool.
  • adzm 7 days ago |
    > with a simple fetch(...) with credentials included, you can easily grab any Microsoft Edge user’s email from any website

    Wow, this is disturbing on its own

    • MatthiasPortzel 7 days ago |
      I was shocked at the popup blocker bypass, then the UXSS. Really impressive endurance to take this all the way to ACE.
  • mschuster91 7 days ago |
    Oh dear god, at each further chain link I was laughing so hard that my poor cats got disturbed!

    This entire chain is nothing but a lesson of shame for Microsoft - if you fork a thing, better be prepared to thoroughly understand and review each corner you touch. Or you might miss important cross-references that you should update but that aren't mentioned in comments by the original developers.

    As for the "sign in automatically" BS that both Google and Edge push - that can go and die in a hellfire where it belongs.

  • akersten 7 days ago |
    Glad to now have some hard evidence I can reference whenever I bring up my strongly held intuitive opinion of "Microsoft repackaging someone else's browser and adding some extra stuff to it can only make Edge strictly worse"
  • 1vuio0pswjnm7 7 days ago |
    A good summary of the so-called "modern" browser

    But what hapens when there's no Javascript interpreter, i.e., not the so-called "modern" browser

    And when the OS is not Windows

    The so-called "modern" browser _is_ a "logic bug". It's multiple layers of stupidity if "security" is a goal

    • 1vuio0pswjnm7 7 days ago |
      Designed for data collection, surveillance and advertising